SALT LAKE CITY â (CNN) More than seven years after angry anti-Obamacare town halls erupted across the country, raw emotions are boiling over again â this time, as the Republican Party under President Donald Trump gears up to dismantle Barack Obamaâs legacy.
And the fury is flaring up in some of most conservative corners of the country.
On Thursday night, two Republican members of Congress â Reps. Jason Chaffetz of Utah and Diane Black of Tennessee â were each confronted with impassioned constituents during simultaneous events. The shouted questions, emotional pleas and raucous protesters of the evening crystalized the GOPâs tough political road ahead as it forges ahead with rolling back Obamaâs accomplishments, including the Affordable Care Act.
In suburban Salt Lake City, local police estimated that some 1,000 people packed into a high school auditorium to see Chaffetz as hundreds more waited outside. For 75 minutes, the congressman confronted a crowd that fumed with resentment of Trump and accused Chaffetz of coddling the President.
âFolks â I get one sentence into it, you say Iâm not answering the question,â an exasperated Chaffetz complained as the crowd repeatedly jeered him. âI am answering the question, OK?â
And some 1,700 miles away in the town of Murfreesboro, Tennessee, Black was met with roughly 100 protesters at a âAsk Your Repsâ event hosted by the Middle Tennessee State Universityâs College Republicans.
Tempers flare
Mike Carlson, a 32-year-old student from Antioch, Tennessee, said that as an overweight man, he depended on Obamacare to stay alive.
âI have to have coverage to make sure I donât die. There are people now who have cancer that have that coverage, that have to have that coverage to make sure they donât die,â Carlson said. âAnd you want to take away this coverage â and have nothing to replace it with! How can I trust you to do anything thatâs in our interest at all?â
Jessi Bohon, a 35-year-old high school teacher who lives in Cookeville, Tennessee, was visibly emotional as she stood up and posed her question.
âAs a Christian, my whole philosophy in life is pull up the unfortunate,â Bohon said, a comment that drew verbal affirmation from others in the room. âThe individual mandate: thatâs what it does. The healthy people pull up the sick.â
Bohon went on to ask how Congress could be OK with âpunishing our sickest peopleâ rather than trying to âfix whatâs wrong with Obamacare,â the sweeping healthcare law that covers 20 million Americans.
Black responded that Obamacareâs individual mandate â which requires everyone to have health insurance or pay a penalty â still allowed millions, including many young and healthy people, to be without coverage.
âAbout 20 million people did actually come into the program who were uninsured,â Black said. âYou donât want to hurt one group of people to help the another. We can help both groups at the same time.â
Bohon shot back: âHow many of those people were in states where they played a political game with peopleâs lives?â
Black appeared flustered, and declined to continue. âIâm going to pass this one,â she said.
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Bohon told CNN afterward that as a state employee, she receives health insurance through the state. Her question to Black, she said, was motivated in part by her Christian beliefs, as well as her upbringing in the coal-mining town of Grundy, Virginia.
âGrowing up in the community that I grew up, in Appalachia, because we were so poor there that we had to take care of each other,â Bohon said.
Both Carlson and Bohon told CNN that they voted for Hillary Clinton in the general election.
The same event hosted by MTSUâs College Republican last year was attended by around 30 to 40 people, according to organizers. On Thursday night, the room was quickly filled to capacity while dozens outside chanted: âLet us in! Let us in!â
Contentious questions
Black, along with two other GOP local officials, were at first asked questions that had been pre-submitted on the topics of healthcare and tax reform â a format that clearly frustrated audience members and prompted some to interrupt.
At one point in the discussion, GOP State Rep. Mike Sparks told the room: âIâll be honest with you. As a state representative, I got health insurance. I feel a little guilty.â
Multiple audience members could be heard responding: âYou should.â
In both Utah and Tennessee, many attendees and protesters told CNN on Thursday that they were first-time participants in politics.
Carol McCracken, a 65-year-old Salt Lake City paralegal, said she is âa child of the â70s â this is not my first rodeoâ in Democratic activism. But she said she hasnât seen the partyâs base as engaged as it is now since then and that she has never seen such high attendance at a congressional town hall.
If the explosion of progressives attending GOP town halls in recent days has in large part been fueled by nationwide opposition to repealing Obamacare, the topic didnât come up once at the Chaffetzâs event.
Instead, it was a scattershot series of criticisms of Trump â and of Chaffetz for aligning with the President.
When a man asked Chaffetz why he disavowed Trump over the infamous âAccess Hollywoodâ tape â and then backtracked before the election â Chaffetz defended the President, saying he believes âin my heart of heartsâ that Trump was the right choice.
âThere was no possible way I was ever going to vote for Hillary Clinton,â he said. âNo way. Never.â
âWe want to get rid of you!â
The crowd erupted in chants of âDo your job!â when Chaffetz, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee, was pressed on why his panel spent months investigating Clintonâs emails but has not yet launched inquiries into Trumpâs taxes (Trump has declined to release his tax returns).
âYouâre really not going to like this part: The President, under the law, is exempt from the conflict of interest laws,â he said.
Chaffetz received some positive reaction when he called top White House counselor Kellyanne Conway âwrong, wrong, wrongâ for promoting Ivanka Trumpâs business interests in a TV interview Thursday.
But for the most part, he confronted an angry Democratic base even in deep-red Utah and in a district where he was just re-elected with a margin of victory of 47 percentage points.
Chaffetz nodded several times to the political makeup of his crowd. âYouâre going to disagree with this,â he said as he began a defense of the GOP pushing to block Planned Parenthood from receiving federal health care dollars.
The congresman at times seemed to relish the boisterous crowd. He cited Vice President Mike Pence â and then scoffed when the crowd booed, saying that Pence âis, like, the nicest human being.â It only earned more boos.
At one point, he cast new Education Secretary Betsy DeVos â confirmed this week on a 51-50 vote â as a common enemy, touting a bill to abolish the Department of Education and hand all control over schools and their funding to states.
âI want to get rid of Betsy DeVos!â Chaffetz said.
A man in the crowd shot back: âWe want to get rid of you!â
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